Showing posts with label designing. Show all posts
Showing posts with label designing. Show all posts

Thursday, March 22, 2012

(Design) Production db used as the data warehouse?

We're designing our first bi suite and we're considering not using a data warehouse at all but connecting directly to the production database via the DS. I have a nagging feeling that inherently this is not a good idea but would welcome pros and cons.

Pros
- real time data updates as fast as we can Process
- no need for ETL
- we can write named queries for use in the DSV to satisfy our data requirements

Cons
- performance hit to non BI users when BI users report if using ROLAP partitions
- potential table locking during Processing, again affecting non BI users

My gut feel is that instead we should be keeping a synchronized copy of Production as a DW to report off, but I will need stronger Cons that those above to convince my boss.

Be gentle please - my first post and I completed my fist SSAS course only yesterday. Thanks.

Are your production db home made or purchased solution from sombody?

Is the data quality 100% so you don't need data clearing and validation?

Are there any updates/upgrades of production db structure?

Are you sure, that you production db is only source of your data warehouse and there will be no another sources in next years?

How large is the volume of your production db?

How large it will be in 3-5 years?

Do you plan to archive some old transaction data from your production db?

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Thanks Vlad, some good points here:

Are your production db home made or purchased solution from sombody?

- The production database is also ours.


Is the data quality 100% so you don't need data clearing and validation?

- Yes, and any changes that need to be made through the interfaces would be made in the source (production) database (which would then flow through).


Are there any updates/upgrades of production db structure?

Cheers I hadn't considered this - if we change the DDL of the production database during version upgrades then this will potentially have an affect on the DSV's.


Are you sure, that you production db is only source of your data warehouse and there will be no another sources in next years?

At this stage yes - although if it's very successful I could see clients wanting to report on other external sources like their upstream ERP's. I'm not sure how having the production database as the data warehouse could relate to this though...

How large is the volume of your production db?

Our largest production databases are about 5GB.


How large it will be in 3-5 years?

Hmm, hard to say but would guess 10GB?


Do you plan to archive some old transaction data from your production db?

Very good point - for customers who have been using the software for some time and have a large amount of history they may want to use the DW as an archive and remove data from production - the approach I outlined about does not allow this easily (we would have to write a number of date queries restricting the data.


Considering the lukewarm response I got to this thread perhaps what is being proposed is not such a big deal/poor option - if I consider the cons above it sounds like we may be able to implement it in such a way. I must admit I still have a bad get feel about it but can't really pin down exactly why...


Has anyone seen cubes based directly off their production database (i.e. not a copy of it) in a real world environment? Would love some more feedback...

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Hi,

I have seen many SSAS solutions, and a some of them direct connected to production db. but no one of direct connected was ERP db.

I depends on your businnes. Is you production db a ERP like db, or what else? If ERP like, then you must have DWH, if you what to sleep relaxed :-) another way you get enough headache

|||It's an OLTP database but not high volume, only dozens of transactions an hour. But we're thinking of only processing nightly, and setting an expectation with the users that this will be the case.

Monday, March 19, 2012

"Select All" option visible in Designer but gone on Report Manager

Hello,

I have several reports that use parameters that I have defined as multi-value. When I am designing the reports I see the "(Select All)" option listed first in each parm control that has the multi-value property set true. However, when the same reports are deployed to our server and viewed through Report Manager, the "(Select All)" option is missing. I need the "(Select All)" to be present.

I've seen some discussion of a service pack. Could this be the problem? What do we need to do to get our "(Select All)" back?

Thanks,

BCB

Hello BCB,

You'll need to apply SP2 to the server with Reporting Services on it. It seems that your local machine already has it applied.

Jarret

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Hello Jarret,

Thanks for your response. Can you tell me how to identify the service packs that have been applied to our SQL Server, if any? I checked the SQL Server properties and found a Version property that reads 9.00.2047.00. However, the number doesn't mean anything to me.

How can I tell if SP2 has been applied?

Thanks,

BCB

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BCB,

RTM - 2005.90.1399
SP1 - 2005.90.2047
SP2 - 2005.90.3042

This link will tell you which version number corresponds to which service pack:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/321185

You can also go to the properties of the EXE file to get the version number. For example:

{Drive}:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.{InstanceID_of_RS}\Reporting Services\ReportServer\bin\ReportingServicesService.exe

Jarret

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I have the same scenarios (but it's not a problem)

I applied SP2 (AND SP2a) on my local client, so my VS2005 has <Select All> in the Designer, and local Preview

however, our SSRS servers haven't been applied SP2 but only SP1, so no <Select All> there

My local .exe version is 3050 (ie. anything > 3042 is SP2) since SP2a is .3050 :)

|||Thanks to all for the very helpful responses...